BANC Matching Quest in the Right OL

Dear Flyers,

Thank you for your contributions to the BANC dataset! Proofreading is moving along at an impressive pace, with over half of the cells in the brain completed.

Today we ask for your help this holiday season by identifying specific visual projection cells in the right optic lobe: LC cells, LPCs, LLPCs and LPLCs. These cells enable the brain to recognize objects and sense movement, translating sight into behavior and decision making (think: should I run from this frog or fly toward that tasty banana). They are of great scientific interest in the BANC as we can finally see their connectivity to VNC. But they have not yet been identified in BANC. There are over 40 different types of LC cells.

Krzysztof has a great overview of these cells in this post.

Resources:

Thank you for your help in finding and identifying these cells in the BANC! If you have any questions, please feel free to add them in this thread. These cells will be added to the BANC-bot shortly and this post will be updated when they are.

Amy, Marissa, Mala, Sebastian, and the FlyWire team at Princeton

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Cool! I’ll start right away.
It would be useful to have annotations defined for them though (including the hierarchy, like we have for the optic lobes’ ones).
For now, we can (probably) label them only as a freeform annotation.

Also, just to be sure - right OL is the one with the cursor in this link?
https://spelunker.cave-explorer.org/#!middleauth+https://global.daf-apis.com/nglstate/api/v1/5434056314454016

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Hooray! Good point about annotation list. We can work on tjos. If you would rather take the first pass, feel free! Marissa is double checking the correct OL :slight_smile:

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Yup that’s the right OL. I’m working on an example soon… and ask Jasper to update the banc-bot with the new list of the LCs, LPLCs.

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I’ve been working on collecting the LC4s into a single set. Up to 27 so far (FAFB had 50).

Do we have a clear way on identifying these yet? There are actually a few LC4s in the dataset (Neuroglancer) but I cannot figure out how that was added, unless it was before the current banc bot setup.

Edit: I’ve got 54 (two damaged/incomplete) LC4s now - there seems to be one or two missing based on the gap in the canopy but I haven’t been able to locate them. Set complete here: Neuroglancer

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I’m working on LLPCs. Have probably all LLPC1, LLPC2 and LLPC3 (missing only LLPC4), but they are mixed and now have to separate them.

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LC4s appear to be done (other than one or two I think are missing), outside of getting cell info added. Link’s above.

Since I’ve found a good bundle area to work from I’ll be continuing on LC types- next up is what appears to be LC12s as they are also common in the area I’m working from (might actually be two groups of LCs here). Neuroglancer

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Small update so folks know where I’m working. Haven’t been able to do much around the holidays but trying to get back to it.

“Complete”:
LC4s - Posted earlier, pending Cell IDs. There may still be some strays, I might go over them again.

“In Progress”:
LC12s
LC17s - up to 155! Tentatively complete.

I split these two into different groups now that I’ve realized/seen the difference and was able to visualize their terminal clusters. Now working through their terminal clusters to fill out these sets (FAFB had about 140+ each, so lots here to go). Admittedly 80% of my work is just finding something already proofread and adding it to the list for cell ID later, but still important work! Since these two are so clustered together I’m working on them in tandem.

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With this, I am tentatively calling LC17s “done” - at 155 neurons grouped into this farm (segmentation layer is turned off in this link for your loading sanity.)

LC17s - BANC

There are likely a few more stragglers in here, but the farm size is getting difficult to manage in terms of memory load. FAFB has 142 labeled, so this feels approximately complete!

I’ll be moving on to finish the LC12 farm next. Currently spending more time on Pyr during the weekdays but weekends will likely be more able to focus on the project to identify these VPCs.

(Speaking of, when do we get the ability to mark these with cell IDs?)

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@Celia_D @M_Sorek

Would it be possible to create a spreadsheet to track the types, we’re working on in this thread?

Nothing fancy, simple: type, username, status (in progress, done, ?), maybe number of cells and comments. Total or leaderboard not needed.

Here are all the types’ names already extracted from the Visual Cell Types Catalog:

aMe1
aMe3
aMe4
aMe5
aMe6a
aMe8
aMe9
aMe10
aMe12
aMe15
aMe17a2
aMe17c
aMe17b
aMe17a1
aMe19b
aMe19a
aMe20
aMe22
aMe24
aMe25
aMe26
AN_multi_124
AN_multi_125
AOTU026
AOTU053
AOTU065
AVLP151
AVLP534
AVLP593
CB0143
CB0734
CB0802
CB1329
CB2685
CB2848
CB3089
CB3235
CB3238
CB3790
CB3866
cL01
cL02a
cL02d
cL02c
cL02b
cL03
cL04
cL05
cL06
cL07
cL08
cL09
cL10
cL11
cL12
cL13
cL14
cL15
cL16
cL17
cL18
cL19
cL20
cL21
cL22a
cL22c
cL22b
cLLP02
cLLPM01
cLLPM02
cLM01
cLP01
cLP02
cLP03
cLP04
cLP05
cLPL01
cM01a
cM01b
cM01c
cM02a
cM02b
cM03
cM04
cM05
cM06
cM07
cM08a
cM08b
cM08c
cM09
cM10
cM12
cM13
cM14
cM15
cM16
cM17
cM18
cM19
cML01
cML02
cMLLP01
cMLLP02
DN1a
DN1-l
DNc01
DNc02
DNg33
DNp11
DNp27
DNp30
DNp31
DNpe053
H1
H2
HSE
HSN
HSS
LC4
LC6
LC9
LC10f
LC10e
LC10c
LC10a
LC10d
LC10b
LC11
LC12
LC13
LC14a1
LC14a2
LC14b
LC15
LC16
LC17
LC18
LC19
LC20b
LC20a
LC21
LC22
LC24
LC25
LC26
LC27
LC28a
LC29
LC31b
LC31a
LC31c
LC33a
LC34
LC35
LC36
LC37a
LC39
LC40
LC41
LC43
LC44
LC45
LC46
LCe01a
LCe01
LCe01b
LCe02
LCe03
LCe04
LCe05
LCe06
LCe07
LCe08
LCe09
LLPC1
LLPC2
LLPC3
LLPC4
LNd_CRY+_ITP+
LPC1
LPC2
LPLC1
LPLC2
LPLC4
LPT04_HST
LPT21
LPT22
LPT23
LPT26
LPT27
LPT28
LPT29
LPT30
LPT31
LPT42_Nod4
LPT45_dCal1
LPT47_vCal2
LPT48_vCal3
LPT49
LPT50
LPT51
LPT52
LPT53
LPT54
LPT57
LPT58
LPTe01
LPTe02
LT1d
LT1a
LT1c
LT1b
LT11
LT33
LT34
LT36
LT37
LT38
LT39
LT40
LT41
LT42
LT43
LT47
LT51
LT52
LT53
LT54
LT55
LT56
LT57
LT58
LT59
LT60
LT61a
LT61b
LT62
LT63
LT64
LT65
LT66
LT67
LT68
LT69
LT70
LT72
LT73
LT74
LT75
LT76
LT77
LT78
LT79
LT80
LT81
LT82a
LT83
LT84
LT85
LT86
LT87
LTe01
LTe02
LTe03
LTe04
LTe05
LTe06
LTe07
LTe08
LTe09
LTe10
LTe11
LTe12
LTe13
LTe14
LTe15
LTe16
LTe17
LTe18
LTe19
LTe20
LTe21
LTe22
LTe23
LTe24
LTe25
LTe26
LTe27
LTe28
LTe29
LTe30
LTe31
LTe32
LTe33
LTe35
LTe36
LTe37
LTe38a
LTe38b
LTe38c
LTe40
LTe41
LTe42a
LTe42c
LTe42b
LTe43
LTe44
LTe45
LTe46
LTe47
LTe48
LTe49a
LTe49f
LTe49d
LTe49b
LTe49e
LTe49c
LTe50
LTe51
LTe52a
LTe52b
LTe53
LTe54
LTe55
LTe56
LTe57
LTe58
LTe59
LTe60
LTe61
LTe62
LTe63
LTe64
LTe65
LTe66
LTe67
LTe68
LTe69
LTe70
LTe72
LTe73
LTe74
LTe75
LTe76
mALC3
mALC4
mALC5
mALC6
mALD1
mALD2
MC65
MeLp1
MeLp2
MeMe_e01
MeMe_e02
MeMe_e03
MeMe_e04
MeMe_e05
MeMe_e06
MeMe_e07
MeMe_e08
MeMe_e09
MeMe_e10
MeMe_e11
MeMe_e12
MeMe_e13
MeTu1
MeTu2b
MeTu2a
MeTu3a
MeTu3b
MeTu3c
MeTu4d
MeTu4b
MeTu4c
MeTu4a
MTe01a
MTe01b
MTe02
MTe03
MTe04
MTe05
MTe06
MTe07
MTe08
MTe09
MTe10
MTe11
MTe12
MTe13
MTe14
MTe15
MTe16
MTe17
MTe18
MTe19
MTe20
MTe21
MTe22
MTe23
MTe24
MTe25
MTe26
MTe27
MTe28
MTe29
MTe30
MTe31
MTe32
MTe33
MTe34
MTe35
MTe36
MTe37
MTe38
MTe39
MTe40
MTe41
MTe42
MTe43
MTe44
MTe45
MTe46
MTe47
MTe48
MTe49
MTe50
MTe51
MTe52
MTe53
MTe54
Nod1
Nod2
Nod3
Nod5
OA-AL2b1
OA-AL2i4
OA-AL2i3
OA-AL2b2
OA-AL2i1
OA-AL2i2
OA-ASM1
PLP020
PLP022
PLP023
PLP032
PLP035
PLP036
PLP037b
PLP051
PLP068
PLP081
PLP103b
PLP104
PLP150a
PLP155
PLP163
PLP177
PLP185
PLP215
PLP231
PLP239
PLP248
PLP249
PLP251
PLP252
VCH
VS1
VS2
VS3
VS4
VS5
VS6
VS7
VS8
VST1
VST2
VSm
5-HTPMPV03
5th-LNv
5-HTPMPV01
APDN3
CL104
DCH
DGI
LAL047
LHPV2i2a
LatB
l-CPDN3
l-LNv
s-CPDN3A
s-LNv
vCal1

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Thanks KK! Yeah, let me touch base with the BANC team and possibly Arie about how they may want to track and/or are able to track progress… I’ll make sure to bring it up at the next meeting.

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For now, I’ve created this sheet we can use:

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Thanks! That should do it. I’d do it myself, but I’m not so great with Excel/Google Sheets, to say the least. :laughing:

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I really like, that in the catalog of the intristic neurons there are images next to each type. Unfortunately, the catalog of the visual projection neurons lacks it, so I decided to do it on my own. I’ve made it in form of a website.
It’s available for download here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qIpc5qfJVMtv9upanEnOm5-r6i_KZSoy?usp=sharing
Just download everything and open the index.html file in the browser.
Each entry contains a single type with it’s name and two projections of a single cell of this type. The name is also a link to the original catalog with the given type.

It looks like this:

I was thinking about deploying it somewhere online, but all the images have together about 200MB, so it would take sometime to load the page each time, you’ve opened it. It would also probably eat fast any free hosting sites’ transfer budgets, lol.

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